Sex Starts in the Kitchen: Episode #23
by Motte Brown on 06/27/2008 at 1:26 PM
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But don't feel too bad for her. She also receives tons of love from us and others, particularly Australians, as you'll hear in this week's show.
The thing is, Lisa's big diss got The Boundless Show a two star review. Come on! Two stars? I'm incensed. I'm offended. I'm worried about our ranking. Not really. But you can help.
If you like The Boundless Show, leave an iTunes review. See room for improvement? Contact us at editor@boundless.org and give us your keen insights.
And we're really thankful to have music from Sovereign Grace this week. Or as Lisa calls them, the charismatic Calvinists. Thanks guys.
Roundtable -- 6:30
Our roundtable discussion starts with a CNN.com article about sex and housework. But the bigger issue we tackle is how much weight should be put on figuring out the whole "division of labor" thing before marriage? Maybe more than you think because it often reflects what you believe about gender roles. And you want to make sure your views are complementary before you head toward the altar.
Culture -- 23:10
After hearing Plugged In's Bob Waliszewski talk about the summer movies in this week's Culture segment, I know exactly what I will and won't see. He does a great job of breaking down the content and artistic value of each film so that it's pretty clear which ones are worth our time and money. This week, he and Lisa talk Kung Fu Panda, Get Smart, The Love Guru, The Hulk, and upcoming attractions.
Hungry Years -- 32:10
How do you feel about your singleness? Proud? Ambivalent? A bit exposed like a big pimple? This week Patrick Dunn taps into the anxiety that can come with being a twenty- and thirty-something single.
Inbox -- 39:40
We talk a lot on Boundless about preparing yourself for marriage. But how do you know when you're ready? This week, Candice and Lisa discuss a listener's lament about her own spiritual readiness for marriage.
1. Justin Gunter said the following at 2:26 PM on Jun 27
Although I wouldn't give boundless such a low rating I might semi-agree with the poster on itunes. If I remember right the reference was directed to whether or not talking about Robert E. Lee was politically correct. I would remind everyone that RE Lee was both a staunch Christian role model and easily considered a national hero. If it was not for his wisdom at the end of the war (Appomattox) the American Civil War could have been a much longer and bloodier affair.
Keep up the good work!
2. Mo said the following at 3:39 PM on Jun 27
I was so excited to listen to the bit on singleness because the speaker seemed to understand how difficult it is. (And I'm guessing it's almost more difficult for men, since they are expected to be the pursuer. I can't imagine how hard that must be!)
Anyway, I was loving it all... and then he turns out to be married in the end. And not only that, but the conclusion was basically, "Hold on because you too will someday get married and these awful single years will end."
Please stop promising young people that they ARE going to get married, when the Bible nowhere promises such a thing!
3. dana111 said the following at 7:07 PM on Jun 27
Okay... I don't know about publicly asking the married people on the podcast about their sex lives, but the rest of the podcast was great. Also, Brad Wilcox is a GREAT instructor (I had him as a teacher at the University of Virginia,and he is pretty smart!).
Representing the state of GEORGIA!!!!!
4. J. said the following at 7:40 PM on Jun 27
As I was listening to the end of "Hungry Years," I had to wonder: How old was Mr. Dunn when he finally got married, and how old was his wife? Can anyone on the Boundless staff answer these questions?
5. Susan said the following at 7:41 PM on Jun 27
What happened to episode #23? Last time it was 22 and this time it is 24?
6. Ro said the following at 4:46 AM on Jun 28
I think that I have a certain personality flaw, that unless I overcome, I will be single forever.
I pray to God to help me overcome it; and can only trust in his work in my life to make me ready.
Otherwise, well, I'll continue to not be able to give these years of my life to someone..
I know transcripts have been mentioned before - is this a possibility?
7. Marie said the following at 8:08 AM on Jun 28
When godly married people talk about sex, sure it's a bit flustering, but it's also a great thing. At least for me, it reminds me of what I'm waiting and hoping for. It also helps to fix the "bad programming" I have received from the world.
8. Valencia said the following at 10:21 AM on Jun 28
you'll be happy to hear that the rating is up to 4.5 stars now =)
9. Boston Matt said the following at 5:26 PM on Jun 28
I have to say it again! Can we get transcripts from the episode? If no then how about getting "Hungry Years" at least online? He nailed it!
And by the by, I just saw Wall E. Good summer movie that is really fun. The people I was supposed to go with backed out and I already had tickets so I almost didn't go but I'm glad I did because it's worth seeing!
10. Naomi said the following at 2:02 AM on Jun 29
Yay.... australia!
11. Rachael said the following at 2:09 AM on Jun 29
Ro...don't know your situation...but you know what? My mom has mentioned to me something she once heard a Bible teacher/pastor (who's no longer living) say...I'm not including the name cuz I'm butchering the quote...but the gist of it is something like this: someone wondering about their marry-ability - the "bag of bones" that they are..but there being someone who would love them...I wish I had the quote verbatim...
And you know...again, I don't know your personality flaw, but we all have them. I remember a conversation I had with a friend so long ago...and I remember her expressing her view that it's acceptable for everyone to have one major character flaw... :)
In looking at myself I see I am so flawed. I was just thinking about that tonight after having dinner with my boyfriend and parents. I am quite aware of many weaknesses.
Again, I don't know your flaw, but, it is possible that what might seem so major to you might seem more "minor" to another...I feel like a particular area of my life is complex, but my mom thinks that I've gotten better over the years and that if I get married that he might not see much of it or if he does just see it as a quirk and not as big of a thing as I see it. I know sometimes probably a "quirk" could probably be a euphemism for sin, but, anyway...
I don't know. I guess...it's so wonderful that you want to overcome your flaw and trust in Christ to help you. I just came across a neat quote about realizing what we have in Christ and trusting who Christ is.
There's also an awesome passage in 2 Peter that talks about how if you don't have certain good qualities, you have forgotten your forgiveness of sins.
I might err on the side of thinking of my weaknesses too much. But there is an advantage to being aware of one's weaknesses. I think it helps build empathy and love. There seems to be a correlation between forgiveness and love.
Anyway...I guess, don't think everyone has to be perfect first before marriage. It's awesome that you desire to overcome your flaw through Christ's strength. That kind of attitude would be admired by a Christian husband/wife should it be in God's will for you to marry...
*Peace*
12. a sister said the following at 4:52 PM on Jun 29
of course married Christian people should talk about sex & even publicly if they are comfortable with it. If married Christians don't talk about it, where do singles learn? and where do marrieds learn from each other? The conversation shouldn't be salacious, let alone pornographic, but it should happen. A good rule of thumb might be to avoid being more graphic in public forums than Scripture is - but the Bible can be rather graphic.
13. Motte said the following at 4:34 PM on Jun 30
I appreciate the input about transcripts. But providing transcripts for a weekly, 45-minute show is really cost prohibitive (about $175 per episode). And the editing would be extremely time consuming.
Sorry but we just do not have the resource right now.
14. Bethany said the following at 9:40 PM on Jun 30
Wow, anyone who thinks housework and chores and terms/schedules are 50-50 and really particular just need to live a month with a big family!!! But otherwise, great thoughts about expectations, and talking things through ahead of time...
I'm not quite 23, but have thought that that was *the age*, too...
15. CCSurfer said the following at 11:42 AM on Jul 1
Lisa A~
You like to clean?
Well I like using tools and fixing things (including fences).
This could be the foundation for a beautiful relationship.
And I promise to respect and embrace the sponge system (as long as you let me go snowboarding).
16. keightie said the following at 12:54 PM on Jul 1
hahaha, the ratings are back up?
hmm...sex sells...
I was surprised that you didn't use a substitute word to ensure that our subscriber emails made it through the filter. : )
17. Craig said the following at 5:12 PM on Jul 1
Really? You're surprised that gratuitously ripping an entire region of the country hurt your ratings?
18. Ro said the following at 4:09 AM on Jul 5
Yes, transcripts are very expensive, how bout just a highlights package of the main points? Please? Some of us only have access at internet cafes...
There's just so much good advice and wisdom that I'd love to have access to on those podcasts.
Anyway, thanks for your kind encouragement Rachael.
I feel like my flaw is that I'm not dealing too well with my singleness (I am trying to pray for enough self-control not to complain:). And that I feel like I'm needy. The Boundless article that was just postedf by A.J. Kiesling makes me re-question my neediness, as she claims its ok to need someone... So I'm confused as this is a completely different message to the one I've been hearing from both Christians and non-Chrisitans alike.
Also, I tend to be a bit eager when men do approach me and start purusuing, that i think this scares them away, because they stop pursuing after a while. (But this happened with someone who was a very immature Christian and was dating someone at the same time he was dating me, without telling me abou tit, and then he decided he preferred her...)
Anyways, thanks for the advice:)
Thanks Rachael - was very encouraging.
19. Motte said the following at 12:24 PM on Jul 7
Ro:
Take heart. If the Boundless Magazine is approved, we're thinking about transcribing portions of the show for a feature. Though we don't know what it'll look like. Maybe four or five Roundtable segments.